We share our thoughts on Sucker Punch for 20 minutes, birthdays, local art events, and student photographers. Sid talks about upcoming photography workshops and gallery show. Dave talks about his inexpensive websites for artists project, dipping his toe into product development, and the mystery of selling creative services. Sid wraps with an observation of the mainstreaming of geek culture over the past 20 years. Recorded April 14, 2011.